The Contender

Fundraising campaign by Milos Grozdanovic
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Hello, my name is Miloš Grozdanović aka mikisol to some of you guys.
For people from my community I don't need introduction since they followed everything I've did in past few years but for you guys who are just now hearing about me and this project, let me briefly introduce myself, my journey and Contender to you.

I'm at the moment of writing this 23 years old and live in Serbia, at final year of college studying contemporary arts. General life interests are tech, gaming, cars and everything else that cool kids like.

How it all started?
- In 2019 Moved to Belgrade (capital city) for the College, got a small 1.5 room apartment, started attending classes, did some standard ''students jobs'' after classes to get some money on the side to pay for expenses and that was it... not much going in my life at that point. One of my good friends (Genakrul) was at that time streaming Battlefield 1 and Battlefield 5 on twitch, the franchise I've grew up with and was my ''go to'' game since I know for myself. I've fount streaming to be really interesting and had some ideas and ''plans'' on how im gonna start streaming when I'm done with college and having some free time bla bla... fuck it, one thing led to another, here I am streaming on 15 inch Asus gaming laptop to like 2 viewers. Whenever there was a day I could put a side 1-2 hours without guilt tripping myself for not studying or working, I would fire up a stream and play some Battlefield 5. I quickly started getting attention from Battlefield community and people fount my mechanical skill and playstyle enjoyable to watch since Battlefield being Battlefield, it's not a place where you often see people with good aim.
Few months went by and I've gotten myself a small following on Twitch and 5-10 people that would always stop by on my stream to chat a bit and watch me play.
I've never thought that this few people that I met in beginning would become such a close friends to me today. In those few months I've that passed since I've moved in Belgrade for college, I've started doing photography in spare time since that was one of classes in college. Got some ideas how to monetize it and can't lie I've had big luck on my side that allowed me to connect with major fashion names and big YouTubers in my country. I've stopped working physical labor jobs and focused on monetizing photography... that got me a nice amount of money that helped me pay college and allowed me to sell my laptop and invest in a somewhat decent PC back then.
(9600k, 16gb ram and GTX 1080)... my community went even further than just supporting me with some spare cash and few people came in that dropped 500-600$ to help me out get 144/240hz monitor and other gear that would help me play at my fullest potential.
By now we are in Q1 of 2020, i went from shitty 70fps 15inch laptop and less than 2mpx webcam to a solid pc, 240hz monitor and proper mic and camera. This is also a time where I've had to move back to my hometown due to Covid-19 pandemic and demand for photography/videography went to 0 due to lockdowns. After moving back to hometown I was helping my parents around our small family business and dedicated majority of my free time to streaming. My channel was growing more and more and all the money I was making from streaming and helping parents out was invested in building a streaming studio in one apartment that my family had empty in my hometown. Bit by bit I was renovating and doing 90% of work by myself whenever I had time and some cash on a side to put into this renovation. Apartment was bone naked to the concreate and had half working electricity. Beside that PC was upgraded to i9 9900k and I've got a 2nd PC which was encoding the stream... so an increase in fps, reduction of input lag and increase in stream quality. Whole reason for me taking this big of a step is due to awful internet I had at home. Seeing the rapid growth I have on Twitch and knowing that next Battlefield is coming by the end of 2021, I had to prepare myself in case next Battlefield makes me ''famous'' and allows me to make a career out of streaming. Some people might call it dumb but I believe that all opportunities you miss are the ones you don't take.
I was doing a lot of trading on used sale market. I was passionate about aiming and mechanical skill so I would go on used sale market, buy 10 different mice I didn't try before and sell them for 20-30% higher later on so I can try even more mice next time. Did a bit with other PC components but mainly was doing that with mice. Can't say an accurate or exact number of mice that I've used but its around 200, from random no names, Chinese clones to proper mice (the ones that actual Logitech, Razer, SteelSeries and etc brands made)

Now this is the part where whole mice and aim journey starts becoming a passion (lets be real it was more of an obsession). There was a question that was constantly echoing in my head. Why after about 200 mice I've had, dozen of them modded, PCB swapped, weight reduced and God knows what other Frankenstein mods... why is Zowie ZA12 that I bought in 2019 still the mouse I perform the best with. Why the mouse from 2013/14 with 3310 sensor when I had all this new and ''fancy'' models in my hands that on paper, should all leave this old Zowie in dust? I started researching the so called philosophy behind aim, behind the shapes and behind anything that could give us advantage or put us in disadvantage as players. With all the experience and knowledge that I have now in about middle of 2021, I've managed to improve my aim and mechanical skill in next 6 months more than I've improved over the past 5-6 years, just by applying and figuring out certain things in my gameplay that honestly I didn't see anyone talk about. Also this is the time when I moved in this apartment that I was renovating for streaming. I was showing most of it to my community on streams and a lot of people saw how much I grew since I've started streaming, we would sit down and break down different aspects of aim, discuss it, mod mice on stream with this new perspective in mind and etc... and most importantly, have a great time together.
Few months down the line I've gotten the idea... why not make my own mouse shape with all this experience? That was just an idea, wasn't something I was willing to share with my community just yet, I was waiting for Battlefield 2042 to release, stick to a plan of streaming and making some content around it and then later on present this idea to my community.
Well... lets just say that Battlefield 2042 didn't treat me or any other streamer well. Game came out in awful state, lowkey unplayable how bad it was and the crucial part... it had MAJOR issues with the mouse input (game is emulating analog sticks). For someone whos entire channel and ''brand'' orients around mechanical skill, this was a game breaker. Some of my friends I've met through streaming like Enders and Silk had easier time than me adapting and working around this issue to continue growing their channels and brands. Can't put entire blame on Battlefield 2042 and it's developers, I wasn't ready for unexpected and didn't make a plan B on how to adapt myself in case something goes that much bad.

2021 November/December I'm at the point where everything I was doing now hits a wall and I didn't bring the tools to take it down. Should I give up after about 2 years of dedicating myself to streaming and learning all of this? I have one more year of college, do I play it safe, finish the college, keep streaming on a side and see where that goes?
No, I took the risk.. I'll delay classes and exams as much as I can and start focusing on idea about making my own mouse. I told my community that I'm stepping down from streaming to fully focus on something big that I planned for some time already. Call it dumb, call it irrational but I've had a passion and If tossed it under the carpet, who knows if it would be there in few years after I finish college, settle with a job and etc.

2021 December till of the time as I'm writing this was one hell of a ride for me.
Since my family had a small business I had a decent idea and experience on how you should run one, I've also tried a lot of mice, I've did research on shapes, aim, mechanical skill and bla bla... how hard can it be to make a mouse and run as small business on a global scale, not that hard right? Oh boy was I so wrong.

Fuck it, lets go all in and we will figure things on the go, but where do I start? The whole mouse concept is is still just an idea.. how do I get it in hands? How do I export it as product? How much could it cost? Do I sell one or both kidneys to finance it? Can I sell someone's else kidney? Jokes aside I knew since the start that things won't go smooth and easy on this path but it's a path I have to take. I'll walk on it first and then rest later.

For about a year since that most of the time was spent researching shapes and philosophy that hides behind it and here and there figuring other things on a side.
At about this point of time I also managed to get investor, ended up getting a pretty fair and good deal. The project got my back pushed for 20.000$ and some additional help from community and few other people. This was a game changer since salaries in Serbia and overall life standard does not allow individual like me to solo finance project like this.
I've came to conclusion that grips as of what we know now (palm, claw, fingertip) are just tip of the iceberg and that all of us understood it wrongly. Mice shapes are not designed for specific grip, they are designed for an application. Certain mice due to their shapes will allow you to perform better in XX games, mainly because they allow your hand and aim to move differently. Simple analogy would be: Why is Zowie EC1/2, Glorious Model D, Xtrfy M42 and other ergo palm grip mice the main type of shape that is used in CS:GO pro scene? Why do tac fps players prefer bigger and wider ergo mice and why for example players of OW/Quake/Apex/Fortnite (games with a lot of verticality) have majority of their players playing on smaller and lightweight ambidextrous mice such as Razer Viper mini, Logitech GPX, Ultralight2 and etc?

You can grip any of this mice however you want it's just that their shape and design will allow your aim to perform better on specific aim spectrum. Logitech GPX was the most brilliant thing that Logitech ever did, they made the mouse that felt good in all games, across all sensitivities and that felt good for most players. There is one issue, jack of all trades is a master of none. But is it?

See, a mouse only needs to be jack of certain trades, not for all of them. They way I look at it is mouse itself should allow you to maximize your muscle control in XX parts of aiming while also being a tool that doesn't require muscle control in XX parts.
Just for example... a mouse shape by its design and nature should allow a player to easily go from a snappy/fast flick into a smooth tracking, while allowing a player to use his mechanical skill to operate on vertical axis (tracking and flicking up and down).
Most mice if not all of the ones I've tried do not allow you that. You can try that with whatever mouse you have with you right now. Go from a super fast flick into consistent and smooth tracking, you will find it hard due to your fingers having to apply more pressure/force to stabilize the mouse in the hand. Stiff grip equals jittery aim.
Another good example would be looking at target switching clips. 99% of people will dead lock their mouse in one spot after target switch and fail to do a follow up micro adjustments on enemy. The way Contender is designed is to allow players exactly that. To ease up smooth tracking right after a snap on a target.

Getting Contender from just an idea and concept into reality was much harder than I thought. I knew what needed to be done, but how would I do it.
The rough idea behind was: Lets take XX aspects of currently existing mice that are designed well for XX part of aiming and forge it into one mouse to make a ''perfect shape''. What I've discovered throughout trying all of this different mice (take everything with a grain of salt, I'm not expecting you to trust me blindly on everything I'm saying) is that Zowie ZA12 has a best foundation. Low front/high back, you can never go wrong with that. Logitech G102/203/305/Egg mouse allows extremely nice micro adjustments and forces you to stay calm and relaxed. Logitech G303 due to diamond shape locks your grip like an anchor and feels like a cheat code for tracking on horizontal axis.

Zowie ZA12 - Feels comfortable and natural to hold. Nothing crazy to point out beside that it only feels as natural to hold and stable due to hump resting on middle finger crease and inside of your palm.
Logitech G305 - Good for micro adjustments/smoothness, hard to stabilize.
Logitech G303 - Feels like cheat code for tracking on horizontal axis, practically impossible to track and flick vertically without feeling odd or weird for most people.

All 3 of them have their pros... but what are the cons?
Their disadvantage is that they are too exaggerated.

You don't need whole mouse looking like egg... you can just have it's sides like that.
You don't need mouse looking like a diamond... you can just have it being more narrow to the front compared to the middle.

Back to the topic of getting it from the head into hands. I've first tried brute forcing it... got some g302-s (same shape as g303), g102-s and zowie zowie za12 and started cutting them apart and sticking each different parts into one another to get a general idea. Yeah, I laugh at it too now just like you are when you are reading this... That was dumb and I don't know why I thought that could work. 2nd try was modeling sides with different materials such as playdough and hot glue to get the concept in reality... that worked but now mouse is too big and too heavy. Then I tried sculpting it out of something and making casts so I can multiple it and fine tune the shape. I had 0 knowledge about sculpting or modeling so I took some classes to learn that. After some time learning I gave it one more shoot but there was issue that I couldn't cast a mold with something I could optimally work on. Tried silicone, rubber, led, plastic, wax and few other random materials.
After all those trials and errors I got an idea of making the general shape in Blender, increase its size a tiny bit and 3D print it out of some soft plastic that I could easily work on by hand. Mouse was modeled in Blender, 3D printed in like 20 samples from which I ruined like 17 to make 1 that feels okay. Take that 1 now to 3D scanning. Clean it up in Blender, 3D print 20 more, ruin 19, get 1 even better feeling than previous one, 3D scan it and repeated the process bunch of times. Once I've gone through this process few times I've had Contender in hands, exactly how I imagined to be and feel in hand.... but there is on issue. I'm just a human like anyone else and humans tend to be biased towards things they like/prefer so that's why after getting the shape that I wanted I consulted and got input from dozens of pro/comp players and from extremely talented aimers in our community. To my surprise not much was changed after their feedback, they seemed to agree with my ideology and design and difference in opinion was 99% of times about the size.
After bunch of input from other players that are on my skill level and higher, I got the mouse downsized a bit down to roughly ZA13 size which in the end made the mouse even better for microadjustments while preserving everything else about it.
Took the final shape, cut open with dremel, hot glue Viper mini PCB inside and fingers crossed that the shape design fulfils every expectation. It did, even though the mouse was so poorly and cheaply assembled at this point it felt better than my main mouse (zowie za12) and managed to allow me exactly what I've tried achieving with shape.
Flicks were more stable, tracking was much more smoother and overall felt so much more confident in my performance.

A long story short explanation of Contender shape is :
- Low front/High back
Mb2 is slightly higher than Mb1 to accommodate middle fingers by default higher position than index finger.
Asymmetrical hump position targets middle finger crease and proximal transverse. when in relaxed position and thenar when in ''locked'' position. (you can google this parts of hands to get a general idea of what I'm talking about)
- Slightly convex sides rather than concave as on majority of mice.
- ''Wing'' right next to a Mb1 to allow comfortable form of 1-3-1 grip for users that prefer that over standard 1-2-2 grip.
- Roundness of it's body follows the angle of relaxed state of fingers so that players holding it by the angle have extra support with palmar ligaments.
- Sensor placed right in middle of where most people would grip, slightly above center of the mouse.
- Balanced around sensor and weight split half on bottom half on top shell to make it feel even lighter in hand.

Mouse is basically ergo but looks like ambidextrous from a first glance due to subtle asymmetry it has.

In meantime till this day a lot of time and effort was spent making sure other things are figured out and done... figuring out how I'm gonna open the company for this, numerous visits to attorneys, patenting agencies, contracts, import/export, taxes, other legal stuff and etc. Not gonna go that much into detail about this boring stuff in here since you came looking for mouse and explanation behind it.

Fast forward to April/May 2023 everything seemed to click in its place and I'm now traveling around Serbia trying to find a factory that could injection mold mouse for me.
At first I've decided to travel with a bus in order to save money but that wasn't optimal because by going with public transport I can visit 2 factories per day (for example) while If I was to go with a car I would spend like 2x money on fuel but manage to visit 6-7 factories in a day. Few weeks fly by and I've visited or contacted almost every factory I could find in Serbia. 99% of them wouldn't even care to work with me due to project being too small for their interest or because they never made anything regarding PC-s.
Issue was that most of this companies were small and ran by one family and that their business model is exporting XX goods in EU. I've tried approaching them as individual and as company/business entity, no luck. After some time the choice was down to about 10 companies that are willing to work with me so I'm now in process of negotiating the price, estimating costs, time to produce, judging their work environment and machines, how's their quality control team.. do they even have a quality control team and so on.

About month later we get to end of May, I've made a deal with one small factory and production began. Waited a week or so and first samples of Contender were made. Let's just say that quality was nowhere near what I expected. Finish of the mouse was totally off, whole mouse was making cracking sound, visible creeks in plastic could be seen from inside the shell, bottom plate wasn't aligning with top shell properly so same samples couldn't even be closed, mb1 and mb2 were a bit more stiff than how I wanted them to be... all around it was a total failure. Now I'm in a full panic mode because this was really expensive part of the project and also the most important one. Parties were pointing fingers to who is at fault, the company that made a mold and did injection molding was blaming me for providing faulty 3D model while 3D modeler was pointing finger to them. I've had few options and felt lost what to do. I've asked this guys to give me the mold so I can take it somewhere else and do a test/research on it to see if mold is faulty and figure out things from there. They rejected giving me the mold due to some policies and whatever stuff they made up just to justify not giving me something I paid for. My understanding of it is that they either got afraid that I will produce mouse somewhere else for cheaper and ''scam'' them since they made me a mold for cheaper than competition , either that or they knew they made mistake with a mold and didn't want me to find that out. I've spoke with attorney to see if I can sue them and get the mold but he told me that with my budget and financial situation it won't be the smartest decision. Due to how courts operate in Serbia this would take 3-5 years to resolve since it's not an ''urgent'' case (when I say urgent I mean it's not a case where someone was endangered, hurt or lost a life). Lawsuit would cost me a lot of money and who knows If I could win in court. Decided to let go of it (as much as I hate that decision I know it's smartest choice I can make now) and play safe by making new 3D model with different guy and see where that goes.
Fast forward until about end of June I've got in touch with another guy and he started working on creation of a new 3D model. Luck again wasn't by my side since this guy was late on everything. Promised 5-10 days to finish, waited for the 3D model till end of August. The 3D model was made so poorly that even when 3D printed it came out like someone with a budget of 30$ made it. Confronted the guy about it and again I have to take accountability for someone's else mistake. Even though I told him exactly what to pay attention to, what mistakes to avoid, what to focus on, what are the important design aspects and etc its like a talked to a wall. Great... 1 mold and 2 3D models are down the drain... tried making it via Fiver but you can assume how that all went... The company wants to take things in court, 2nd guy got paid in cash so no proof of transaction, other 3D models were made via Fiver... wasn't any different than burning the money and asking myself where money gone.
In end of August/beginning of September I've found this new guy and so far things are going wonderful. We decided to make mouse from scratch again but this time take baby steps. We split mouse in few parts and we are focusing on one part at the time and make sure we don't start working on new part until previous one is 100% complete. He is also from Serbia so we either doing calls or meet so we can talk about it in person and he can make changes right in front of me on laptop. This way we gonna make it work 100% but it will also take a bit more time compared to previous ones due to going step by step, each time there is change made, we get it 3D printed so I can inspect it in person and see how things align, look or feel. Current state of the design is 90% done, so far we resolved every previous issue mouse had (for example aligning or cracking when applied pressure). At the moment I'm waiting for 3395 pcb-s to get imported to me so we can get measures in person and adjust bottom plate that carries it and alignment of buttons. The previous PCB I promised for the mouse was 3370 but why not get upgrade now when it got available for about same price.
I'm in last stage of the project, delayed it as much as I could to make sure I release and sell you guys a mouse with a quality I would personally use and not some half good product.

I'm sorry if this was too much to read and sorry if you guys ended up reading more of a ''sad story'' rather than how things went smooth and planned, but this is reality.
This is a solo project, I'm alone in all of this and taking a bite of something that usually team of like 50 people would do. It takes time, it takes effort, learning on the go and requires mistakes to be made. I also want you guys to understand that Contender is not a mouse released by big fishes like Razer or Logitech and don't expect it to match it's quality, branding or speed of production. What you are buying and supporting is a journey and research on Aiming that takes a form of a new shape, made by one guy with limited budget, limited time and best to his effort and skill.

If you wanna hear more about the research on aiming and shapes, I started a series on my YouTube channel called ''FUNDAMENTALS OF AIMING'' in which I will be going in depth about topics that seem simple and straight forward on a first glance. Now I'm on a tight schedule since college caught up with me and I need to put focus on that rather than my channel throughout October 2023. After that I'm aiming for 2-3 videos a month. Started with basics of aiming and will move up the ladder with topics to make sure I cover everything from my point of view.

Thank you for being interested in hearing more about this project, about me and my journey. For my community that stuck by my side since early days , thank you for supporting me this whole time and thank you for always being there as community to have my back whenever I needed. I grew as a brand, grew as a person, made mistakes, made laughs, missed some opportunities, grabbed some of them... overall you guys played a big role in my life for past 4 years.

I most likely missed some details and events that happened throughout this journey since most of the time I feel overwhelmed with information and responsibilities but generally that's it. Also the mouse was originally supposed to start as the mod of Viper mini and as more progress was made with research and finances it moved to 3335 wireless, 3370 wired then 3370 wireless and now 3395. That's why when making 3D models I have to do some things from 0.

For now general specs of the mouse are:
- Sensor - Pixart 3395 4khz wireless
- Switches - Huano blue pink dot
- Battery - 500mah
- Weight 62~65g (might end up going under 60g but balancing of the mouse is no.1 priority for now)
- Braided type-c charging cable
- 100% PTFE feet without grooves (walls shaped as stock feet) on bottom plate so you can mount any other feet of your liking.

Color options:
For now Galaxy Black and Marble white.
I've ordered bunch of different filaments that are carbon impregnated that have unique texture to them to play around with gripiness of the mouse.
On top of that I will be experimenting with different types of clear coats and polish effects to see how that would end up feeling. Optimally I don't want mouse with coating since PH value of sweat tend to ''eat'' through it but the ones I'm experimenting should be resisting much higher PH values than what our sweat and skin oil can do. More testing needs to be done for now.
If I end up getting coating on a desired level, I will be in touch with you as a buyer if you want it on a mouse or not.

First 100 samples which this gogetfunding covers, will be shipped with limited edition wooden box and metal plate that is laser engraved with my signature, serial number (something like 1/100 or 37/100) and a form of thank you letter on it.
This is least I can do to give back for you guys supporting this project early.
Down the line depending of demand and sales, packaging will either stay same or I'll have to switch to cardboard box. I'm not looking to become mega rich from this or anything so losing some profit by making wooden boxes standard packaging will only be an issue if overall inflation skyrockets the cost of making them to the point of me losing any profit of sales or even going negative in profit. Everything except electronics for the mouse is made locally either in my garage or friends garage/shop. Can't make promises on something I have no control off.

How pre-ordering works?:
Pledge 110/$ + approximately shipping cost of your region that I listed bellow
If you feel like, you can do more than that but only for a sake of helping me out with a project, not for purchasing 2 or 3 units. Since first batch is limited I want to get it to as many different people as possible.
After pledging/donating the money, if for some reason your email doesn't get redirected to me by this website or you are not using your main email address on PayPal, add me on Twitter (_mikisol_), Discord (_mikisol_) or shoot me an email (mikisolbusine[email protected]) and we will get in touch there for shipping info.

If you are not interested in getting the mouse but want to support the project, that's fine too, pick a number that won't hurt your wallet. If for a sake of just supporting the project and not wanting the mouse you end up donating more than 110/$ + shipping, make sure to clarify that with me so that we don't end up with misunderstanding.

The funding I get for pre-orders and if anyone wants to donate to help out will be spent in finishing touches of the mouse, more research down the line, makings of the videos and getting mice produced (majority of funding will go to production itself). Might as well take my gf on a nice dinner if we fulfil the goal :), but that's about it.

Shipping costs:
- US - approx 27$
- EU - approx 25$
- AU - approx 32$

This are the countries I'm currently able to ship to:

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, American Samoa, Andorra, Angola, Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Armenia, Aruba, Ascension, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Benin, Bermuda, Bhutan, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brazil, British Virgin Islands, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, Cape Verde, Cayman Islands, Central African Republic, Chad, China, Christmas Island, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Cook Islands, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Dominica, Dominican Republic, East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Eswatini, Ethiopia, Faroe Islands, Fiji, Finland, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, Gibraltar, Greece, Greenland, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Guam, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Isle of Man, Israel, Italy, Ivory Coast, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macau, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Marshall Islands, Martinique, Mauritania, Mauritius, Mayotte, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Montserrat, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Netherlands, New Caledonia, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Nigeria, Niue, Norfolk Island, North Korea, North Macedonia, Northern Mariana Islands, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Palau, Palestine, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Pitcairn Islands, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Réunion, Romania, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Helena, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Martin, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, San Marino, São Tomé and Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Korea, South Sudan, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tokelau, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tristan da Cunha, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Turks and Caicos Islands, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican City, Venezuela, Vietnam, Wallis and Futuna, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe

If you address is not on a list feel free to contact me to see what I can do to get a mouse to you.

For any additional questions feel free to contact me on:

EMAIL : [email protected]
Twitter : _mikisol_
Discord : _mikisol_


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  • Anonymous
  • Donated on Nov 08, 2023
  • Filip Drabik
  • Donated on Oct 14, 2023
  • I said the pre order will come with the next paycheck 👀 - Nexit

  • Anonymous
  • Donated on Oct 08, 2023
Nov 06

Quick update!

Update posted by Milos Grozdanovic at 07:34 am

I'm still waiting for import of PCB-s , things got delayed and there is not much I can do at the moment.In meantime I've played around with what I can and haveIn my discord and few other communities I've talked about experimenting with battery capacities and due to multiple consulting

See update

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  • Anonymous
  • Donated on Nov 08, 2023
  • Filip Drabik
  • Donated on Oct 14, 2023
  • I said the pre order will come with the next paycheck 👀 - Nexit

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  • Donated on Oct 01, 2023
  • Excited to try out the mouse and hope this is working out for you

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